And what reason do we have to think that Walter didn't commit suiceide even when we know that he believed that becoming 11-th victim will only free him from the bonds of the flesh?
Well, because according to the scripture he was to kill himself during the Holy Assumption ceremony -- which, as we know, he did -- only not in the prison cell but in the back room of the 302. I mean that's the real question about Walter's death: was his death (if it really happened) in the prison a part of his plan with the ritual? If it was, then we clearly have 2 deaths of Walter Sullivan -- in the prison cell and in the apartment's back room. And exactly this part raises many doubts and questions (I know it from my own experience, and I'm sure you too, for many people do have serious problems comprehending this part). As I said, I know your theory from the PA perfectly and have had a lot of time thinking about it, hovewer some things are still unclear. As we know, Walter did perform the Holy Assumption ceremony in the apartment and yet, while only the ceremony itself was supposed to release him from the bonds of the flesh, he managed to return to Ashfield after his physical death at the prison as if he was already released. How is that possible? I know, the ghost theory -- which is probably the only way to explain that. But still, nor only the scripture does not cover this case, but also it would require to accept the idea that Walter really planed to die in the prison -- just to die yet again, only this time properly -- in the apartment. And this concept is also can be hard to swallow, because as can be seen, the body is also needed for the rest of the ritual -- it can't be just left behind like in case of his death in the prison. And so it also requires to accept the idea that Walter nor only knew that killing himself even before the Holy Assumption would not end it all, but also he really planed to take his body back from the police! Not even being a real person, to take a real body! Otherwise, we must accept a totally crazy idea that Walter knew that even a NOT REAL BODY would be fine for the ritual (if he didn't plan to take his real body back from the police, and knew that a delusional body would be manifested after his second death!
). And this is totally crazy!
So I just don't know... while the theories about the ghost Walter digging up his own body and then dragging it from Silent Hill to Ashfield rather make me chuckle
this one we're talking about is also not perfect. Maybe after all it's just a flaw on the part of Team Silent not tying everything up, and now we have to make all the possible theories neither of which seems to be perfect. :upside:
So i think, that Walter really did DIE in his prison cell. But, look closely at Walter's grave in his world -- it completely dug up and looks like someone CAME OUT of it, and it also has 11121 on it, stating that Walter has became the 11th victim. It clearly hints that Walter died in REALITY, but resurrected inside his own world (just like all other his victims) - as 11th victim and the Conjurer.
By the way about the grave, yes I also believe that the grave in the Forest world is only what can be found in the reality of Walter. I mean, why would police even bother taking his body in the woods and bury it on the cult's graveyard near the Wish House (it was even closed and fenced)? And IMHO it doesn't fit the description of an unmarked grave either. So I guess this grave can be found only in the Walter's world -- in reality the body was buried somewhere else -- somewhere outside of Silent Hill (the Wish House is obviously "inside"). The reason why the grave is there, not anywhere else, I guess is because that was the only graveyard Walter had seen in his whole life and all his associations with graves and graveyards were connected to that place.
No, as far as i can say it's OK with translation -- it's just that you misinterpretated the meaning of the file. The file says that the body of "11th VICTIM" has never been found. But it's absolutely true -- becuse the police didn't know that WALTER HIMSELF WAS 11th VICTIM! They searched, and searched, and searched for some victim with numbers 11/21 carved on it's body -- but never found one, because they never realised the process of 21 Sacraments ritual and never realised that Walter's suicide was also a part of the ritual. That's 11th victim never was found.
Yeah, you're absolutely right! Now that I think of it, it was kinda obvious -- why hadn't I thought about it?! XP
But still, what about that John Doe analogy -- "the one who uses special powers or skill"? Seems like a suggestion towards the Walter's abilities as a "conjurer"... what does this have to do with the police having not found the body of the 11th victim?
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